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Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Mon, 23 Sep 2024 16:39:20 GMT

Stenz is a cool dude who is good to work with. Though I think giving DuckStation the axe would be a mistake.

By RAtelevandalist

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Mon, 23 Sep 2024 08:47:36 GMT

There’s a fork called Swanstation which exists as a RetroArch core. Works well, in my opinion.

Edit: I recall that, according to Reddit, the fork exists due to a falling out between Stenzek and RetroArch. It would seem that forking and renaming it was done years ago in agreement with him, but who knows the truth apart from the parties involved?

By amongtheworms

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:49:36 GMT

Why is it always threats? No one is owed an emulator. Sit down already.

By Ryu_Niiyama

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 18:43:36 GMT

@JonathanChapman
Here's an idea 💡
Take the time to code out an emulator yourself and give everyone time to complain to you about bugs, hotfixes and all the other crap dudes had to put up with.
Feel free to go out and fix it for the rest of mankind

By Luvpops

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:55:51 GMT

@JonathanChapman so this is your make stuff up phase to try and pretend you're not whitewashing death threats. Got it.

I get it now. You want to be part of the problem and will troll your way to an excuse all day. My bad. In the long run, though, therapy is probably better than Internet comments. Give it a try.

By bluebonics

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:49:29 GMT

@vrubayka I sure hope so because the developer is kind of forcing the matter. We'll see what comes out of it. I hope the name is clearly different too. But realize that any further enhancements to Duckstation can't be just carried over to that forked project. They'd technically have to be discovered on their own and contributed separately (and if they coincidentally are the same then the author of Duckstation has some legal rights to try and take down the other fork). That's assuming that the other forked project ends up being sold or packaged for commercial use - which is what the author didn't want going forward with his contributions. This is a lot of trouble no-one needed. And for what?

By JonathanChapman

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:47:17 GMT

@JonathanChapman But can't you fork it and clearly communicate that it's a fork of Duckstation and credit everybody?

By vrubayka

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:45:10 GMT

@vrubayka It goes against open source - where multiple people contribute and all of the code is open for others to use in their own projects to build on top of. Playing PS1 games is cool, but what if I wanted to build another emulator and base how the controls work on the code in this project? Maybe I learn how to make that better (say less lag) and come back and contribute to this project.

By JonathanChapman

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:40:19 GMT

Can I still download the emulator to play games? Yes I can. Is it the code open? Yes and it can be contributed to. Why should anyone care?

By vrubayka

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:40:16 GMT

@bluebonics See this is why we can't have a conversation.

It always goes:

1. Developer (or company or group of people or whoever) does something community doesn't like
2. Community speaks up in comments/etc.. someone in the group takes it too far (or sometimes - if you go for the conspiracy theories - is just claimed to have by the Developer)
3. Developer rushes to discuss a death threat to bypass the real discussion ("look here.. I'm under threat.. I'm now totally justified")
4. Community turns on itself in reaction and we can never get back on track to discuss the real issue because we're too distracted

@bluebonics C'mon man.. don't be the problem.

By JonathanChapman

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:14:42 GMT

@JonathanChapman Walking around on pins and needles isn't the same as "not giving death threats." It's not the same as violating the license something is distributed under either.

Come on buddy, don't be the problem.

By bluebonics

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 13:30:38 GMT

Good on stenzek. You can see the toxicity in this hobby everywhere, even here on these comments. stenzek spare time doesn't need to fulfill the demands on those who believe they are entitled to have others dance to their insults and threats. I like DiskStation, I look forward to future improvements.

By AFourEyedGeek

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 12:49:49 GMT

The only people complaining about this are either ignorant or upset they can't churn a profit from this.

By calbeau

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 08:58:01 GMT

Duckstation is great and I suspect it took a lot of work. If I, as a user, still have access to it and the user experience is not impacted, then I'm not fussed and I think as long as all contributors are happy, who cares. From what I can see, people are forking it and then raising issues and bugs. So as far as I can see, someone has created and distributed it for free, the license terms have changed and the dev who did the work is now getting threats? If Duckstation goes, then its a huge blow to the emu community.

By Rudy_Manchego

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 07:32:33 GMT

I don't know the guy or particularly care whether he's right or wrong here..

but DuckStation might actually be my favourite emulator out there. Probably tied between that and Redream

By roe

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 06:00:26 GMT

He's absolutely acting within his right and it's a shame that someone who is sharing his hobby and work for others to enjoy, free of charge, to have to go through such hurdles, threats and name-calling is absolutely unacceptable!

By tameshiyaku

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 05:27:50 GMT

@MegaManFan agree.

By SirMinicatt

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 05:23:52 GMT

@JonathanChapman I agree. I mean it is what it is. It'll appear weither or not the creator is still around. But I wish the best.

By SirMinicatt

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 05:17:36 GMT

This is in response to people/entities very directly violating the previous license terms and then the creator having to waste his time helping people troubleshoot these essentially bootlegged versions. Nothing they're doing is jerkish or manbaby-ish, it's a defense against people stealing the work of all the contributors.

By bobrocks95

Re: Creator Of PS1 Emulator DuckStation Threatens To "Shut The Whole Thing Down" Following License Change

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:45:23 GMT

@JonathanChapman @BLAZINOAH
Couldn't have said it better myself. The internet is full of entitled people that think they deserve things, just because they scream loud enough.

We don't 'deserve' ***** when it comes to hobbies and interests. We're lucky, and we should be appreciative that we get anything at all. Most of the cool progress that happens in retro gaming these days comes from people's volunteering of their OWN FREE TIME to do cool things. We should really remember that.

By AJB83